RHEMA 4/6/96 A PRAYER WITH A FLEECE
Tonight I had an interesting thing take place. I don't
think I have ever asked the Lord to answer a fleece. (If
I have, I was so young I can't remember it.) I believe
that fleeces should be used very sparingly as they put
the Lord in a box, among other things. Tonight I asked
the Lord to answer a fleece for me using the dynamics of
with 11:11 and 7:11.
Just as I finished asking Him (in my thoughts) I said,
"And let this be just our secret, hidden between You and
me." At the exact moment I said that, my son asked me a
question about 7:11. I didn't hear him because I had
been busy praying about the fleece. So when he repeated
it, he wanted to know if the fact that the clock now
said 8:11, was it a parable because 7:11 was hidden? [He
knew it was 7:11 because Wayne had changed the car clock
back early, when in reality Daylight savings time
doesn't change until 2 tonight.]
I was fairly shocked for the words "7:11 and hidden" to
be in the same sentence, just about 5 seconds after I
finished praying those words. The only way I can
interpret this is that the Lord was saying, "OK, I agree
to your fleece, and it will be a hidden secret between
you and I."
I have thought about why I would use a fleece, when I am
so set against them. Ordinarily my faith is way above
them because I hear Him in so many wonderful ways. But
this particular issue I have struggled with for years
and I truly want it settled. I feel content and know if
He answers it, that it will truly be a very special gift
to my heart's desire.
RHEMA 4/7/96 ANSWER TO THE FLEECE:
The Lord did some funny things this morning. Last night
before I went to bed I typed my fleece. Note the
sentence, "Fleeces should be used very sparingly as it
puts the Lord in a box". Anna called me this AM and
knowing nothing about my fleece said she heard the Lord
say, "YOU MAY FIND OUT THAT GOD WILL RESPOND DIFFERENTLY
WHEN YOU DON'T PUT HIM IN A BOX."
So I had decided between my son's comment last night
about the 7:11 being a hidden parable, which matched my
prayer of the 7:11 being a hidden secret between us, and
now this new Word - that the Lord has said, "Yes, I will
answer your prayer, but not the fleece!" In other words,
He would answer what I was making the fleece about, but
not answer it via a fleece.
I told this to my son this morning as I was chuckling
about what Anna heard, and he wondered why. I told him
in the hallway, outside Wayne's door, while Wayne was in
the Jacuzzi bath with the bubbles on. Wayne heard
nothing. Then at breakfast, Wayne volunteered that as he
was in the tub it suddenly came to him that Judas was
among the chosen 12 disciples, and that he was called
even though Jesus knew he was going to betray him. Judas
was also freely a part of the authority when the 12 went
out to heal, and he was also freely given the secrets of
Jesus' rhema. I was astounded that Wayne would say this
and asked him why he did. "I don't know, it just came to
I then caught him up on my conversation with our son
this AM in the hall at the time he was taking the bath,
and what Anna had heard about putting the Lord in a box.
Then I dropped the bomb… my fleece was that I really
needed to know if I could trust a certain person as I
had an uncomfortable feeling about doing so.
book, 101+ Ways God Speaks (And How to Hear Him)
89. HE SPEAKS WHEN WE LIMIT FLEECES
Using a fleece is a comforting way to please the soul
and personality, but it is not recommended as a pattern
of relationship with the Lord. Most people use fleeces
by stating a certain need for guidance: “Lord, if You do
such n' such, then I know I'm supposed to do such n'
such.” Notice the if-then clause. This clause suggests
making a contract with God on YOUR TERMS. When a person
lays a fleece before the Lord, he is putting God into a
position to answer according to his way, not God's. It
is controlling the limits of circumstances and asking
God to fit that mold.
There are those who lust for signs. (The Pharisees
wanted signs, rather than Jesus. They did not see HE WAS
the sign.) People who look for signs are also vulnerable
to falling into a snare. They are ones who lay fleeces
before the Lord on a continuing basis. One satanic realm
of influence is the lust for signs.
God knows the heart, and may answer a fleece, as
recorded in Gideon's plight. Notice the awe and respect
of Gideon's heart in approaching God in this manner.
Placing the fleece before the Lord was with great
caution as unto the fear and respect of the Lord: “And
Gideon said unto God, Let not thine anger be hot against
me, and I will speak but this once: let me prove, I pray
thee, but this once with the fleece, let it now be dry
only upon the fleece and upon all the ground let there
be dew.” (Judges 6:39-40 KJ)
The fleece was a request to God, and God answered as
His gift. This was not without consequences. God wanted
Gideon's army cut down to 300 men. It was not that God
was angry so Gideon had to make up for the use of the
fleece by cutting his army; but that the fleece and
answer were very much like a contract. Gideon suggested
a contract on Gideon's terms. God answered. Then God
gave Gideon God's terms: 300 men.
The scriptures suggest God is reasonable, listens to
the will of man, and is willing to be flexible and work
with him. He is our Good Father. However, we should not
test Him to see how far He is willing to bend. This
whole concept is something to be approached with
reverence, respect and awe. He's not Someone to bargain
with in the market place. Those who use fleeces on a
regular basis are asking for trouble.
Fleeces suggests a flexible part of God's nature, but
when we draw the line of flexibility it is best WE BE
THE FLEXIBLE ONE.
If one has the wrong motive: a lust for signs, lust
for knowledge, demanding (striving with) or testing and
proving Him, one day the Lord will thresh out that
leaven in the heart through a sifting process.
There is one other reason God would cut this weed
out. There are people who have been accustomed to using
fleeces with a pure desire to find out His will. He
knows the heart, and perhaps will even answer for a
season on their terms. Yet there will come a day when He
wants them to grow and come out of this type of
relationship with Him. Fleeces put God in a box, He is
not cheerfully willing to stay there for very long!
There are many of ways to hear from Him without putting
Him in a box. He desires to bring His own up and out,
seeking Him on His territory.
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